IS THE GOG & MAGOG WAR PROPHECY UNFOLDING RIGHT NOW ???

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IS THE GOG & MAGOG WAR PROPHECY UNFOLDING RIGHT NOW ???

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Israel-Iran Nuclear Showdown: Is This The War of

Gog and Magog?

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Israel, the Church and the Middle East Crisis conference (Troy Anderson)

The nuclear showdown between Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Iranian PresidentMahmoud Ahmadinejad could set in motion the fulfillment of prophecies in Ezekiel 38 and 39—the mysterious “war of Gog and Magog,” New York Times best-selling author Joel Rosenberg says.

These biblical predictions, the former political advisor to Netanyahu says, refer to an end-times attack on Israel by a coalition of nations, including Russia and Iran.

In light of the growing ties between Iran and Russia and U.S. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta’s remarks that Israel may strike Iran’s nuclear facilities this spring or summer, Rosenberg says the prophetic scenario described by the prophet Ezekiel more than 2,600 years ago now “very much looks like it is coming to pass.”

“But I think we have to be careful not to overreach,” Rosenberg told the thousands of people who attended the recent conference—“Israel, the Church and the Middle East Crisis”—at Biola University in Southern California recently. “If these things play out, it will become obvious in the near future. In the meantime, let’s not call them conclusive, but let’s say they are curious. We’ve never seen anything like this before.”

At the conference, noted Bible scholars Darrell L. Bock, the research professor of New Testament Studies at Dallas Theological Seminary, and Walter Kaiser, president emeritus and the distinguished professor of Old Testament at Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary, described Panetta’s prediction that Iran could have operational nuclear weapons within a year as a “very sobering reality.”

“I don’t know if this is the end or just the dress rehearsal for the end,” Bock said. “We have to be careful about suggesting more than we know.”

The conference comes amid a growing possibility of war between Israel and Iran, challenges in the U.S.-Israel relationship, the “Arab Spring” spreading across North Africa and the Middle East and what Rosenberg describes as the rise of a “new czar of Russia,” Vladamir Putin.

Putin, the first Russian leader in history to form close ties with Iran, was recently reelected as president of the Russian Federation, a nation that has been supplying armaments and nuclear expertise to Iran. Putin assumes the presidency of Russia on May 7.

Given this confluence of events, military experts are assessing the potential fallout of an Israeli attack on Iranian nuclear-enrichment sites. A classified American war simulation released in March found an Israeli air blitz would lead to a wider regional war, potentially pulling the U.S. into the conflict.

Israeli officials, however, don’t believe a pre-emptive strike on Iranian nuclear facilities will result in an all-out war. Instead, they believe it could embolden Iranian citizens to overthrow Ahmadinejad—a leader who is driven by a Shia end-times theology that says the way to hasten the coming of the Islamic Messiah, the 12th Imam, is to destroy Israel and the U.S., Rosenberg says.

“The question for the Israeli leadership is, ‘Have we tried everything short of war to stop Iran?” says Rosenberg, author of the soon-to-be-released book, “Implosion: Can America Recover From its Economic & Spiritual Challenges in Time?” “The stakes are, if Iran gets its nuclear weapons, it could do in six minutes what it took Adolph Hitler six years to do and that’s to kill 6 million Jews.”

While the Obama administration hopes economic sanctions by the U.S. and the European Union will pressure Iran to resolve the crisis diplomatically, Rosenberg says Netanyahu’s window of opportunity to strike is rapidly closing as Iran moves its nuclear facilities into hardened, underground bunkers.

Netanyahu may want to attack Iran before Putin’s inauguration on May 7, Rosenberg says, because the Russian president could seek a mutual defense agreement with Iran. During his campaign for reelection, Putin made pledges that would cost hundreds of billions of dollars, promising pay raises to police, firefighters, teachers, solders and retirees.

The only way for Putin to make good on those promises is if the price of oil, which generates more than half of Russia’s tax revenues, were to go up significantly, Rosenberg says. Because instability drives the price of oil, Rosenberg says there is an “economic dynamic to this calculation” and Putin could have a motive to “foment trouble in the Middle East.”

“(Putin) could tell the Israelis, ‘If you launch an attack on Iran it will be regarded as an attack on the Russian Federation,’ ” Rosenberg says. “It would be hard imagining [Netanyahu] moving forward with a direct and credible threat of a Russian retaliation.”

These developments seem to coincide with what the prophet Ezekiel predicted more than 2,600 years ago, Rosenberg says. In Ezekiel 38, the prophet wrote that “Gog” —interpreted as a Russian dictator—would lead a coalition of nations in an attack on Israel, prompting God’s supernatural intervention, Rosenberg says.

“This will be a day of great judgment when God turns his supernatural fury against the enemies of Israel,” Rosenberg says. “It will also be a day of great spiritual awakening. More Muslims and Jews are going to come to faith in Jesus as the Messiah when this dramatic prophecy comes true.”

Bible scholars differ on whether this battle occurs before or at the end of the seven-year Tribulation period, a time when the Antichrist oversees a global government. Some believe the “war of Gog and Magog” occurs before the Tribulation with the Battle of Armageddon occurring at the end.

“A decade ago it would have been hard to tackle this question,“ Kaiser says. “But look at the scenario in Israel now—the Arab nations, plus Persia, which changed its name to Iran, lined up against Israel. The Battle of Armageddon involves all the nations of the world, but the [war of Gog and Magog] is limited. That’s an important
point to make.”

What is most remarkable, though, is that the battle described in Ezekiel 38 and 39 has never occurred in history. Furthermore, Russia and Iran have never had an alliance of the sort Ezekiel predicted 2,600 years ago, but “they do now,” Rosenberg says.

“We’re not living in normal times,” Rosenberg says. “The things that are happening now have never happened in all of human history, but they are happening now.”

Mitch Glaser, president of Chosen People Ministries, which sponsored the conference along with the Talbot School of Theology and Biola University, says Ezekiel 36 and 37 predicted the rebirth of Israel and the return of Jews to their homeland, events that are precursors to the “war of Gog and Magog.” The nation of Israel was created in 1948 and about 6 million Jews now live there.

“So now the stage is set,” Glaser says. “Israel is in the land and there is a lining up of powers againstIsrael. You’d have to be blind not to see the signs of the times.”

One decisive end-times signs involves Jews accepting Jesus. The number of Jews professing faith in Yeshua has soared exponentially from 2,000 to 3,000 in the late 1960s to 250,000 to 300,000 today, Rosenberg says. Meanwhile, more than 1 million Muslims in Iraq alone have come to faith in Jesus since 1979, Rosenberg says.

“More Muslims and Jews are coming to faith in Jesus now than ever in
all of human history,” Rosenberg says.

While these signs should give believers a “greater sense of urgency” regarding the Second Comingand motivate them to share the gospel, Glaser cautions against the type of sensationalistic date-setting that has made many people skeptical about end-times predictions. Family Radio broadcaster Harold Camping recently garnered worldwide headlines after predicting Judgment Day on May 21, 2011—his second failed prediction. In March, Camping issued an apology, describing his calculation as a “sinful statement.”

“It’s critical for us to see the end-times through the lens of scripture, but not be counted among those in the past who have been embarrassingly wrong with setting dates,” Glaser says. “These embarrassing mistakes must not keep a new generation of followers of Yeshua from knowing more about the end-times because Yeshua, Jesus Himself, told us to study the end-times. We don’t want to be ignorant of what God is doing in the last days.”

The global economic crisis, out-of-control debt, record-breaking extreme weather and the increasing potential of war in the Middle East are all part of a divine “shaking” intended to awaken people spiritually, Rosenberg says.

“We know it’s going to be bad in the last days—all kinds of shaking,” Rosenberg says. “But we also know that God uses the shaking as a way to prepare people’s hearts to hear the gospel. Ezekiel 38 and 39 will be one of the most dramatic shakings in all of human history, and I’m not speaking metaphorically. There is going to be an earthquake at the epicenter in Israel that is going to affect the
entire planet.”

Despite his belief that the world is now living in the “last nanoseconds” of the last days and it appears “we are moving dramatically toward the fulfillment of Ezekiel 38 and 39,” Rosenberg cautions that “what is true today may not be true next week.”

“God might kick the prophetic can up the road, in part so the church will have more time to obey Jesus’ command to share the gospel with Jews, Muslims and everyone else,” Rosenberg says.

When asked by his disciples for signs of his Second Coming and of the “end of the age,” Jesus said, in Matthew 24, that the end would not come until the “good news of the kingdom” is proclaimed throughout the world.

“Jesus said, ‘No one knows the day or hour,’ ” Rosenberg says. “I don’t know. Nobody knows. Harold Camping didn’t. So we just have to stick with what Jesus said. The point is not when. The point is are we ready?”

(charismanews.com )

 

 

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  1. Jeffrey Goodman April 5, 2012 at 4:54 pm - Reply

    Debunking the Russia/War of Gog and Magog Myth

    One of the more popular topics among Christians today is the “end times.” With each significant news story, a correlation between it and end times events prophesied in the Bible is sought. Because of recent military activities and tensions in Russia and Israel, the end times event prophesied in the Bible called “The War of Gog and Magog” is now a red hot topic. Ezekiel 38/39 tells how Gog, the powerful leader from the land of Magog, will lead a confederacy of nations to invade Israel during the end times and start a war of unprecedented size and devastation.
    Many end times aficionados believe that Magog represents Russia and that Russia will soon come to invade Israel. However, the ancient Assyrians had dealings with Magog, and their Court records clearly identify Magog and it is not Russia. For decades Christians have been deceived and have been unwittingly deceiving others about who is to be involved in the prophesied invasion of Israel. Russia has absolutely nothing to do with Magog and being the nation that will lead an invasion of Israel.
    While many may picture Russia as an “evil empire,” personal opinions, traditional views, incomplete research, and current events cannot be the basis of the identification of Gog and Magog and the interpretation of Ezekiel 38/39. The correct identification and interpretation of Ezekiel 38/39 must be based on scripture, with the aid of the archeological and historical context of these scriptures. (The scriptures of the Bible are set in a context of ancient cultures, nations, and times.)
    While everyone is entitled to their own opinions, everyone is not entitled to their own set of facts. Although opinions may abound, there is not one verifiable fact or any primary evidence to support the belief that Magog represents Russia. II Peter 1:20 says “Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.” This is consistent with II Timothy 2:15 which says, “Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.” Any interpretation of Ezekiel 38/39 requires recognition of the historical truth and obedience to the word of God which is truth.
    The brief report below explains the great deception about Russia and the War of Gog and Magog. Complete details about this topic and other end time events are available in my new book THE COMETS OF GOD.
    *An archeologist and a geologist, Dr. Goodman has devoted over twenty- five years to the study of the Bible. He holds a geological engineering degree from the Colorado School of Mines, a M.A. in anthropology from the University of Arizona, and a Ph.D. in anthropology from California Coast University. He also earned a M.B.A. from Columbia University Graduate School of Business. He was accredited by the former Society of Professional Archeologists. Goodman is a Messianic Jew who was saved in 1987.
    The report below is posted on my blog http://www.newscientificevidenceforgod.com

    Russia and the War of Gog and Magog

    While most end times Bible prophecy authors have argued that Russia’s origins trace back to the ancient nation of “Magog” described in Ezekiel 38-39, this is simply not true. This myth that traces back to the mid 1800’s is built on historical statements that were deliberately altered, and on the assumption that the similarity of certain words could mean something else in another language. Although ancient records have been found that tell a different story about the identity of Magog and about Russia’s origins, the “Russia is Magog” myth persists.
    Assyrian Court Records
    The popular identification of the nations of Ezekiel 38-39 is not correct. Despite the traditional viewpoint, professional archeologists know the identity of these nations from the Assyrian Royal Court records. The reliable, clear and detailed records of Assyrian Royal Court show they dealt directly with each of these nations about 100 years before Ezekiel wrote. These are the same records that are referred to in Ezra 4:15, 19 and 5:17-6:7. These passages tell how the Jews of the fifth century BC 538 BC–457 BC overcame opposition by the local Persian governor to the rebuilding of the Temple in Jerusalem by referring to these same Assyrian cuneiform court records. They are also the same records Bible scholars now use to provide independent verification and edification of the Bible’s historical accounts from about 805 BC to 530 BC.
    The Assyrian Royal Court records provide direct evidence and represent an incontestable primary source on this subject, since they were written during the time period in question by people who were directly involved. Primary sources have greater value than secondary sources, which can include generalizations, speculation and interpretations made long after the occurrence of the events. On this particular subject, too often what has been written about these countries constitutes secondary evidence and is not based on facts. In some instances statements are the product of mischief, bias or not studying all of the available information.
    The Assyrian Court records show dealings with Magog, Meshech, Tubal, and Togarmah (Ezekiel 38:3-6), the nations that stretched across ancient Asia Minor (modern Turkey) from west to east. From these records we also learn that the ancient nation of Gomer (Ezekiel 38:6), an enemy of the Assyrians invaded Asia Minor by coming down from an area around the northeast shore of the Black Sea. Archeologists know that the militant leader called “Gog” in Ezekiel 38/39 led a confederacy of these nations against invading Gomer.
    Who and what are Gog and Magog?
    Gog is a historical man who the Greeks called Gyges of Lydia. In Gyges of Lydia we have the leader the Assyrians called “Gugu, King of Ludu,” and “Gugu of Magugu,” who is referred to in the Bible as Gog of Magog. “Magog” simply means “the land of Gog.” In Akkadian ma means land, so in Akkadian Ma- gugu means “the land of Gugu,” which becomes our Ma-gog. (Just as the Assyrian eponym for the land of the leader called Zamua is rendered as Ma-zamua). Magog is an eponym for the ancient nation of Lydia that was in the westernmost part of Asia Minor. The Assyrians often referred to a new land by the name of the first leader they learned of from this land. The Assyrians dealt with Lydia through Meshech, who were subsequently defeated by Gomer, and thus the Assyrians finally came to deal with Lydia directly. In the prophecy of Ezekiel 38/39 Gog is being used as a “historical type” of the “antichrist” who is prophesied to come during the end times, and Magog is being used as a “historical type” of “the land of the antichrist.”

    It has been mistakenly believed that the ancient nation of “Magog” in western Asia Minor was the ancient “tribal name” of the “Scythians,” a group of Iranian speaking nomadic tribes from Central Asia (north of Iran) that traveled across the Russian steppes, and came to live in the territory north of the Black Sea. Then, in turn, and again in error, it has been believed that the ancient Scythians were the progenitors of the modern Russians. In Foes from the Northern Frontier Dr. Edwin Yamauchi, a professor of history at Miami University in Ohio emphatically explains that none of the ancient nations referred to in Ezekiel 38-39 can possibly be related to modern Russia. Further, Yamauchi says:

    “Even if one were to transliterate the Hebrew rosh as a proper name (as does the NAS) rather than translate it as ‘chief’ (as does the KJV, NIV, and Hebrew Tanakh), it can have nothing to do with modern ‘Russia.’ This would be a gross anachronism for the modern name is based upon the name Rus, which was brought into the region of Kiev, north of the Black Sea, by the Vikings only in the Middle Ages.”
    Daniel I. Block, a professor of Old Testament at Wheaton College in Wheaton, Illinois in The Book of Ezekiel writes,
    “The popular identification of Tubal with Tubolsk in Russia (H. Lindsey, The Late Great Planet Earth 1970, p.53) is ludicrous . . . The popular identification of Meshech with Moscow (of Lindsey, The Late Great Planet Earth p.53) is absurd.

    How did Russia become associated with Magog?

    The erroneous belief that Russia is Magog can be traced back to a small group of 18th and 19th century theologians who wrote long before the primary evidence from the ancient Assyrian records was discovered, translated and made available to the public. Instead, they based their assertions on secondary sources, historical works written over 500 years after the time of Ezekiel, and to make matters worse some of these sources had come to be purposefully altered. These altered references include statements attributed to the first century AD Jewish historian Josephus, and first century AD Roman historian Pliny.

    In his book The Antiquity of the Jews Josephus says that the Greeks called the “Magogites” the “Scythians” despite the fact that the Greeks did not call the Magogites the Scythians. In this same passage there are other errors in the identification of other ancient nations of Asia Minor. This passage shows that the author did not understand that Ashkenaz is the Hebrew word for the Scythians. (Interestingly, the Assyrian word for the Scythians, Ishkuza or Ashguza is similar to the Hebrew word for the Scythians – Ashkenaz.) This passage also comes into conflict with what the ancient Greek historian Herodotus who after living with each group wrote about the Scythians and the Lydians in his book The History. Since Josephus used Herodotus’ book as a reference, one can only speculate how and why these obviously wrong statements are in Josephus’ book. Were these inaccurate statements the products of Josephus’ imagination, or were they the result of alterations to the few copies of Josephus’ work that existed in medieval times? (Jews did not preserve the writings of Josephus because they considered him to be a traitor.) Beginning in the 11th century these surviving manuscripts were copied by Catholic monks, and obviously altered in some places to suit prevailing beliefs. Ecclesiastical acceptance of the erroneous connection between Magog and the Scythians traces back to Saint Jerome of the late fourth century AD. Unfortunately, the oft quoted statement that has Josephus connecting Magog with the Scythians is an act of document forgery.

    Similarly, the oft quoted statement that has the ancient Roman historian Pliny in his work The Natural History that connects Magog with the Scythians is another forgery. Nineteenth century Scottish Reverend John Cumming is credited as being a leading promoter of the Bible interpretation that calls for Russia invading Israel. In his book The Destiny of Nations Cumming quotes a passage from Pliny’s book about Magog which he purposefully altered.

    Reverend Cumming on page 126 wrote: “Pliny says ‘Hierapolis taken by the Scythians was afterwards called Magog.’”

    Pliny on page 439 actually wrote: “Bambyx (a part of Lydia) the other name of which is Hierapolis, but by the Syrians called Magog.”

    Pliny’s statement has been misquoted by Cumming in a way that makes it seem that Magog was related to the Scythians rather than the Lydians. Unfortunately, this same misquote of Pliny has been carried forward in time and appears in Hal Lindsey’s book The Late Great Planet Earth (page 53). This alteration is easily verified by going to a copy of Pliny’s book and seeing how key words were changed and switched around. It is difficult to believe that none of the many authors of books that discuss Ezekiel 38/39 and the war of Gog and Magog have not discovered this sleight of hand and exposed the deception. (While many contemporary Evangelicals gave Cumming’s books on prophecy favorable reviews, an article in the Westminster Review in 1855 about Cumming attacked him for his “intellectual dishonesty, anti-Catholic bigotry, and moral and spiritual perversion.”)

    The correct identification of Magog with Lydia and not Scythia is consistent with the ancient texts of the Assyrians, who at various times were either the allies or the foes of the Scythians, but had peaceful dealings with the Lydians, who they also referred to as “Magog.” Within academia today, no professional archeologists, historians or serious Bible researchers associate Magog with the Scythians or the Scythians with the Russians. The truth is that modern scholars have unequivocally documented that a group of Scandinavian Viking traders called the Rus began the Russian state during the mid AD 800’s, and gave their name to Russia. Therefore there is no historical or factual basis for any connection of Russia to Magog.

    Why understanding Gog and Magog is important

    As for comparing Gog and Magog of Ezekiel 38/39 to Gog and Magog of Revelation 20:7-10, two different wars are being referred to and the terms Gog and Magog are not being used literally but being used as “historical types.” As referred to in Ezekiel 38-39, the historical Gog who was a “prince” of the nations of Magog, Meshech, and Tubal, serve as “historical types” of the “antichrist” and the multi-national confederacy over which the antichrist is to rule during the tribulation period. The Bible uses the historical leader Gog as a historical type of the antichrist to come in the exact same ways the Bible uses the historical King David as a type of Jesus’ Second Coming (Ezekiel 34:23 and Ezekiel 37:22-24). Similarly, in Matthew 11:14 (also see Malachi 4:5) and Matthew 17:10-13 (“if you will receive it”) Jesus in effect says that John is a historical type of Elijah. In other words, “Gog and Magog” (remember in Akkadian “Magog” means “the land of Gog”) in their most basic meaning, are taken to be types or references to any “antichrist” and “the land of this antichrist;” just as I John 2:18, 22, 4:3, and II John 7 says “there are many antichrists.” Thus, Revelation 20 tells of a second and separate battle involving another Gog and Magog, that is, a different battle involving another antichrist and the lands of this antichrist that takes place around 1,000 years after the battle of Gog and Magog of Ezekiel 38/39. The Gog or antichrist of Ezekiel 38 is involved with one war that is to occur before Jesus returns, and the Gog or antichrist of Revelation 20 is involved with another war that is to occur after Jesus returns and dwells with mankind for one thousand years.

    The bottom line for what is said in Ezekiel 38/39 is that just as a real person called Gog led a confederacy of nations around 660B.C., Ezekiel is using Gog as a historical type of the antichrist, and Magog as a historical type of the nations the antichrist is to lead, for a war that Ezekiel is prophesying to occur during the end times. This could be fulfilled by the appearance of an antichrist and a confederacy of European nations representing a revived Roman Empire. Ecclesiastes 1:9 and 3:15 teach that which is to be hath already been and that there is nothing new under the sun. Has such an invasion of the Holy Land and effort to kill Jews by a confederacy of European nations ever occurred before? Yes, deadly invasions of Israel have taken place a number of times. These invasions are called the Crusades of the Middle Ages. A confederacy of European nations has invaded Israel before and according to scripture it seems that these nations will do so again. While Russia’s anti- Israel actions regularly appear in the news, it is interesting to note the ever growing anti-Israel attitude and actions of the European Community.
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    Recently, I published an overview, entitled “Christian Archeologist Exonerates Russia in the End Times,” about the war of Gog and Magog. This overview (http://christiannewswire.com/news/9509017871.html ) ties to two free downloads on my website (www.thecometsofgod.com) which give the evidence and explanations supporting this overview: 1-“Russia Is Not Magog” (http://www.thecometsofgod.com/dwnlds/appndx-b.pdf and 2- “Armageddon, Magog, and the War of Ezekiel 38/39” (http://www.thecometsofgod.com/dwnlds/chap9.pdf

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